Message #318

Date: Jan 29 2000 19:12:30 EST
From: John Bullens <jbullens@mciworld.com>
Subject: Re: Cantilever-Winged Fly Babies

Guys I don't wish to throw "ice cold water" on you dreams but why re-invent
the wheel again.  Why not look for a Warner revolution project someone is
not working on and buy it or at least copy the structure in wood.

JB.
-----Original Message-----
From: DK807@aol.com <DK807@aol.com>
To: FlyBaby@listbot.com <FlyBaby@listbot.com>
Date: January 29, 2000 09:05 AM
Subject: Re: Cantilever-Winged Fly Babies


>FlyBaby
>
>Hey guys,
>  Can I jump in here and show my ignorance.  I've wondered about the
"clean"
>wing design for a Baby for years.  Since I'm not an engineer, I've
questioned
>lots of folks about the possibilities for designing either a bolt on
>arrangement with a beefy center section, or a carry-through spar design.
Tom
>Rhode's book, "Stress Without Tears" is crammed with great information for
>basic design requirements---and from what I read therein seemed to suggest
a
>box-spar with carry through.  Now, having said that, two problems come to
>mind:  Changing the airfoil to accomodate the larger spar, and room for the
>spar carry-through inside the cockpit.
>   The little "Warbird" homebuilts have the spar through the cockpit, and
>it's an uncomfortable squeeze with the pilot's knees riding over the spar.
>The Warner Revolution is a super little airplane, and I'm looking forward
to
>seeing the larger sport model currently in the works.  They, of course,
have
>the cantilever wing, but I don't know if it's a tube or box spar design.
>And, being a tandem job, maybe the spars pass through at a more desireable
>location.  Whatever---the more I search and dream and wonder and plan...I
>still keep coming back to the original idea of Mr. Bower's pure simplicity.
>Beef up the flying wires to 5/32, and plate thickness to .125", make sure
>you've got the spar carry-through strap...and I really think you've got a
>safe little putt-putt airplane.  Ron, I agree with you...that sound of the
>wires is hard to forget.  Isn't it just like a bunch of airplane nuts to
keep
>trying to change a great design?  Hey, I'm including myself here.
>   The best part about the upcoming flying season is that it gets us back
in
>the air, and out of the hangar where we  keep trying to foul up our little
>birds.
>  All the Best!
>Dave Koseruba
>Charlotte
>
>
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