Actually I have devised a system that I was working on which incorporated a wheel trim system. The only problem was in attaching the tab to the elevator and having the mech internal. I came up with an idea of a pin that is similar to a watch pin ( the pin that holds the band on) if you are interested I can send some sketches. <<...>> -----Original Message----- From: Dale E Still [mailto:DESTILL@northstate.net] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 9:59 AM To: FlyBaby Subject: Trim Question FlyBaby For those of you already flying: I am curious as to whether the lack of an elevator trim system is a problem. Do you find yourself constantly holding stick pressure? I do not want to have one of those afterthought-ugly trim tabs bolted on. Anybody tried using a "bungee" system that pulls on the cables for trim? dale